LED's in Projectors & Audi-esque DRL's?

[-ND4SPD-]

I've seen this done a few time by various retrofitters. Anyone care to shed some light on how these are done.

I'm pretty basic in my understanding of LED's as most of my experience is with direct bulb replacements or my massive Christmas Light display

What type of LED's are being used?
Where exactly inside the projectors are the LED's mounted?



Again, same questions except for the Audi style DRL's?


I've seen tons of stuff on ebay & sites like www.superbrightleds.com. Here's a few examples...







Please steer me the right direction on this. Thanks in advance!

[-ND4SPD-]

Nobody? I know this isn't new, I've been seeing this done for a year plus now. Surely someone can share... please

[NYCJ04]

well i want to see how they do this.. i like it .. how does it look with the hid's on ... probably look sick

[malnevets]

I'm not a pro and not speaking from first hand experience,

but from what it looks like to me, they used a thin LED strip, maybe one like



from Oznium.com and wrapped it around the projector behind the halo with the LED's facing inward towards the projector.

[malnevets]

as for the "audi style led's" I did something like that but just getting the thin led strips from the previous post and using the provided 3M double sided tape, I applied it directly onto the headlights.

it came out looking like this

[NYCJ04]

that looks sweet bro ... damn that altima is sick ...

[malnevets]

Originally Posted by NYCJ04

that looks sweet bro ... damn that altima is sick ...

thank you. if you get the LED strips's from Oznium, they would be brighter than the ones I got, but the downside is that they cost twice as much.

if I get the nerve to try and open up my lights, I'd try to put the led strip inside somewhere

[ducati996]

Sorry bro, but putting LED stirp lights on any other car than Audi's just don't look right....TOO RICE.....hey it's your car do what you want, just my 2 cent.
I saw a Pontiac GP with one and it makes me chuckle

[malnevets]

I seen led strips on a 350Z yesturday, thought it came out pretty nice.

I dun think that racers used LED strips, so can't be RICE (race inspired cosmetic enhancement) [i think that's what it means right?] =P

[BShanahan14rulz]

stop being ricist ;-)

[ducati996]

Originally Posted by malnevets

I dun think that racers used LED strips, so can't be RICE (race inspired cosmetic enhancement) [i think that's what it means right?] =P

Here are some definitions of RICE


Law#1-Pronounce N.O.S. as one word (NAWS).
Law#2-When you are outpowered, call people out with your friends car.
Law#3-Have an aftermarket body kit installed (Lips not included).
Law#4-Use neon or L.E.D to light up your car.
Law#5-Use an aftermarket tachometer...when your car already has a working stock tachometer in it.
Law#6-You must install a non-functional wing/spoiler on the back of your car.
Law#7-Names of performance parts on your car that you dont have.
Law#8-Claim to beat cars that your car is totally uncapable of beating.
Law#9-Magazine race.
Law#10-Install racing seats on a car that runs a 14 second or slower quarter mile.
Law#11-Listing stereo equiptment or any visual mod when listing all your performance mods.
Law#12-Believe that Honda invented VTEC.
Law#13-Putting sub-brand labels on your car...example:Honda emblems on an Acura, Audi on a VW..ect.
Law#14-Install an aftermarket duel-exhaust on a 4-cylinder.
Law#15-Make your exhaust sound like a lawn-mower.
Law#16-Buy a nitrous system just to purge.
Law#17-Using car donughts and calling them "skinnies".
Law#18-Mounting smaller tires to decrease gear ratio.
Law#19-Multi collored body panels.
Law#20-Claiming horse power and quarter mile times with out testing or proof.
Law#21-Talk about how fast your car will be once you buy and install all the parts.
Law#22-performing the ricer flyby
Law#23-fliping your hazard lights,during/after a loss or during a flyby
Law#24-subscribing to super street/sportcompact car
Law#25-boasting about your interior/power windows/sporty looks
Law#26-Say you lost because your car is running on a ****ty tune and needs to be tuned.......... when you're on the stock computer...
Law#27-rev @ every car on the road that will eat you(no matter what direction they are going)
Law#28-if some challenges you 2 a race you have 2 options
a.race and when you lose go to ws and lie your butt off
b.tell em they are a waste of time
Law#29-my clutch is slipping,
Law#30-If lose i missed a gear,
Law#31-or my vtec was set to low,
Law#32-when the vinyl work is worth more than the car,
Law#33-also calling the skinnies here is known as dookies,
Law#34-when someone does a neutral drop in an automatic,
Law#35-bouncing off the revlimiter more than once
Law#36-I started in 2nd intstead of 1st
Law#37-My shift light went off late
Law#38-I didnt catch posi trac on that one
Law#39-My shift nob came off (srt humor)
Law#40-Did you know green meant GO!
Law#41-My vtec juice light was flashing
Law#42-my trunk was weighed down from my 12s
Law#43-my strut bar snapped
Law#44-my neonlight valve stem covers are robbing hp
Law#45-I didnt double clutch like i should have
Law#46-If I didnt blow the welds on the intake i sure poop my pants on that one
Law#47-If the wing is bigger than the blechers at your local high school
Law#48-When the exhaust consist of coat hangers and jb weld
Law#49-Yeah its got about 5000 dollars invested in it ( and it looks like poop)
Law#50-Its a prototype that no one has (built from duct tape and blue glue and pvc piping)
Law#51-driving in and out of traffic with your vtak thinking you have a fast car
Law#52-Getting your #s from a g-tech or some other similar meter.
Law#53-using chicken wire as a mesh grill
Law#54-Remove your hubcaps and paint yer steelies to match the car
Law#55-Account at pepboys
Law#56-own both F+F and have ticket reserved for the third
Law#57-Cutting your factory springs to lower your car
Law#58-Having gauges that do not work
Law#59-When one car in the whole world runs 10s and you think your car is faster.
Law#60-Having a body kit and no plans on painting it
Law#61-When you double side tape parts to the car and expect them to hold up at 100 mph
Law#62-"Yeah its VTEC, but its not hooked up yet"
Law#63-When you consider primer as a color choice
Law#64-When you tell people it has a 9000 rpm redline and can only turn 6700
Law#65-58 if your name is Goki
Law#66-z3 fender flares on an import
Law#67-if you talk about owning a skyline someday and you drive a civic
Law#68-having windshield washer squirters with lights in them
Law#69-Cutting your factory springs to lower your car
Law#70-You refer as everything being JDM
Law#71-someone asks you if you have a turbo and you reply "not YET!"
Law#72-Tell people you are running nitrous,when its really N.O.S. octane booster.
Law#73-when you drive around some highschool parking lot 3 hours after schools out trying to pick up chicks
Law#74-taking your 50whp civic to a dyno when it's stock
Law#75-When you manually shift an automatic
Law#76-Going to the dragstrip with slicks and running a 16.05 in the 1/8
Law#77-When you drive around months at a time with spare tires on the front and custom rims in the back.
Law#78-All you do is brag about how much of a street racer you are
Law#79-Asking about staggared fitment rims on a FWD car.
Law#80-When your car consist of a GTR badge on the car and is not a skyline
Law#81-Its got a rotary motor in it and you drive a mustang
Law#82-you claim your car is fast then get butthurt so you claim your car is an autoX car.
Law#83-you post pics of your parents car and claim it for you own
Law#84-when you compare your $35k car to a $20k car
Law#85-List motor oil as a mod
Law#86-When your car has more torque in the lug nuts than in the motor
Law#87-list winshield wipers as a mod and carbon fiber pedals
Law#88-When your car has more than one squash air freshner in it
Law#89-When you transform your car into something else with a headlight swap and taillight swap
Law#90-When someone ask you if its mandrel bent or crush piping and you have no answer
Law#91-When you stick the rim and tire out further than the fenders and you use curb feelers to keep from messing them up.
Law#92-when your body kit is held on by sheet rock screws and thumb tacks
Law#93-If you "fat arm" out the window with a sideways cap.
Law#94-If you are 5'2 and you drive in the back seat
Law#95-when you have more switches than a hydralic car and have no hydralics
Law#96-If you have to beg your parents to drive the civic
Law#97-when you de-badge your GST ecplise of LX civic because its the suck model
Law#98-windshield sticker saying powered by....(127 @the crank yeah thats power)
Law#99-When one car in the whole world runs 10s and you think your car is fast.
Law#100-when your sn is qwerty
Law#101-You remove every piece of your interior and you still run 15's
Law#102-you have diamond plate floormats
Law#103-you have a racing harness on your stock civic lx seat
Law#104-you make your own intake out of pvc pipe
Law#105-you know what jdm means
Law#106-you have hubcaps that resemble rims
Law#107-you drive any korean car and "mod" it
Law#108-if you have an AEM license plate frame
Law#109-if you put 18, 19, or 20" rims on a sport compact.
Law#110-Japanese writing on a domestic car
Law#111-Put racing gas in ur stock civic lx
Law#112-If you spraypaint your interior
Law#113-if you don't make fun of ricers
Law#114-If you are getting angry while reading this list
Law#115-the local tow truck service is on speed dial
Law#116-the local performance shop is on speed dial
Law#117-someone yells got rice and your mom pulls up in the catering truck
Law#118-your in the performance shop to look @ @!#$ you cant buy untill payday..and it never comes
Law#119-put lambo doors on
Law#120-You join CLUBRSX , not to goof on them, but because you actually think they are fast
Law#121-Calling your flat, bald street tires "Slicks"
Law#123-you drive in 1st gear 90% of the time so you can hear the vtec whine
Law#124-If you buy an srt design
Law#125-you have a bumper sticker that says drive it like you stole it
Law#126-your keychain says aem/tanabe/greddy/typeR/si/mugen/....
Law#127-you play nfsu2 everyday
Law#128-you try to spell as many words linked to honda with your alphabets cereal
Law#129-You treat your nfsu2 car like its a real car
Law#130-Type-R
Law#131-I will own you in the twisties
Law#132-You have a V6 camaro/mustang and spend enough money to buy a V8 just to make people think it's a V8.
Law#133-You've ever swung in behind a car (at 50 mph) in an attempt to draft.
Law#134-When you lose you say "But your car has 4 more cylinders"
Law#135-when you lose you say "Imagine if Honda made an engine as big as yours, because my 4 cylindler has 100 HP/Liter!"
Law#136-You think you stand a chance against all Mustangs and Camaro's because they are heavy
Law#137-You have a Vin Diesel poster
Law#138-You buy a civic, add a cold air intake and cat back exhaust, add 200 lbs of stereo equipment and brag about how much faster it is than when it was stock.
Law#139-You try explaining why vtec is better than a turbo charger
Law#140-You have to let the passengers know when you're flooring it (Thanks, Broken )
Law#141-If you know you can't win, you dump the clutch at 8,000 RPM's and say you couldn't hook up, but at least you looked cool
Law#142-The only 2 exotic cars you can name are Supra and Skyline.
Law#143-You think taking 200 lbs off your car will make up for being 200 HP underpowered in comparison to your opponent.
Law#144-You put slicks on your car and only agree to race in the rain, just so you have an excuse.
Law#145-If you tell the story of how your friend has such a fast car, he put a $10 bill on the dash, floored it, and you couldn't reach it on the dash because you were too pinned in your seat.
Law#146-When you claim to race a stock automatic cobra.
Law#147-When your cardomain site has a 'future mods' list.
Law#148-When you have 12 inch deep dish rims.
Law#149-When you can shoot a grapefruit from your exhaust tip
Law#150-LED exhaust tips.

[2black2box]

Wow... who the HELL came up with all of those rules? Most of them are funny and are very true...

I think the LED strips being taped to the car MIGHT be a bit of a stretch, but all is fair when retrofitting. If you are going to pay nearly a grand to do a customized retrofit, why the hell would you not do what you like?

If all attempts to put LED strips in the headlamps are FAIL (when compared to Audi), then all attempts to retrofit a car that does not come standard with HID projectors may as well be FAIL also...

[BShanahan14rulz]

HIDs are about safety. At least, that's what I tell myself.

[malnevets]

@ ducati996

i guess I am ricey according to that list lol

that is one crazy list, I'm gonna save it onto my laptop. where you find it anyways?

[malnevets]

Law#104-you make your own intake out of pvc pipe

is that even possible???

[BShanahan14rulz]

i'm offended.

not really.

where's the law about getting horsepower increases at a rate of 1hp per decal?

[ducati996]

Originally Posted by malnevets

@ ducati996

i guess I am ricey according to that list lol

that is one crazy list, I'm gonna save it onto my laptop. where you find it anyways?

browsing through vtec.net awhile back

[handsdown]

Originally Posted by malnevets

Law#104-you make your own intake out of pvc pipe

is that even possible???

yeah i've done it



the problem with this is that led's are very sensitive to heat and they'll fail. put them in your projectors and i'd be counting their lifespan in hours or days, not months.

[BShanahan14rulz]

I'm not sure, I may be just pulling this outta nowhere, but I think I heard that as heat increases, the LEDs try to draw more current, and without proper current limiting techniques they would avalanche themselves into being fried

[malnevets]

Originally Posted by BShanahan14rulz

I'm not sure, I may be just pulling this outta nowhere, but I think I heard that as heat increases, the LEDs try to draw more current, and without proper current limiting techniques they would avalanche themselves into being fried

is that when they don't have resisters?